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To work on some very highly advanced biochemical weapons or what we would call a weapon anyways. But there was , there was so many spies double spice , it’s very difficult to break it all down . And I think what I wanted to do though is because you were so close that Lee Harvey Oswald to talk about it was very clear in his statements and he said it very , very clearly that he was a strong supporter of John Kennedy as everywhere .
Fact Jane Clarke need to appreciate you when I came from Florida. All my friends were anti-Castro Cubans in Myers Kennedy in high school . By the time I reached Florida where he University of Florida where all these anti-Castro people why do they hate Kennedy because of the Bay of Pigs and then he didn’t go in their involvement and take everything over so when I can . New Orleans indulge in the lesions . I have to just show you hungry and then the President is and he changed me completely around because he said you know clearly fired those know goes causal literal fired them and then went on and on about civil rights . It’s just shocking to me how if people only knew when and the Henley are small was help ahead of the time he was and by the way . Patrick Kennedy right about 3 months before the assassination , and he was holding a little fingers of their little baby you know just for life is another hostage in the Caesarean in the baby die the were rolling he’s facing when leaving learn that they need . Patrick Kennedy died in knew how Kennedy fell in front of his wife and he broke down and wept and on the phone to me . He called me and he cried now when I’m trying to say here . Welcome . The man who cries over the babies yeah haven’t murdered and it is anybody who usually you know short period time . No , it was impossible .
You know , another thing that a lot of the public didn’t know that. And it certainly does not know now that there was an assassination plan of Kennedy really a short period before November 1963 in Chicago . Yeah . Talk a little bit because Lee was aware of all of that .
Yes , well , there we are , you know if you remember , you’ll understand the whole situation because their final movie release that has substantiated and verify thing I reported on that before , I think they have proof and other files of criminals must know wonderful writers , he called me. This is the last month or so from the beginning . A September until he had we were separated , but we’re still connected by phone . He called me and he tells me , this is our last Google he isn’t he says to me is none gonna die . They’re going to kill me , I’ve seen too many faces is at the least . I got some things done , he said . I believe I think Kennedy’s life 3 weeks ago . He said the knowing whether suspicions in says they’re calling notify is a rifle in mind and it is . I did it because I’ve gotten so close to these people . Yes , there were armed men who were arrested in Chicago , and when I reported in 1999 it leaves trying to take Kennedy’s life and that he believes is exceeded 3 weeks earlier , I was practically left off the stage me cut have England involvement finally stepped out and solely James Douglas writing about the Chicago incident and lo and behold they hadn’t arrested in our amendment they call the of Kennedy is a last minute didn’t get on the plane to go to Chicago . His life was saved and Ibrahim Bolden was present when the Secret Service call said stand there are 2 Secret Service from the FBI stand down you know I’ve got to be protecting Kylie because it has been called off because of their namely sinners informed us in . We have arrested these people .
My guess is they Judith very Baker and Jack Ruby who who shot and we all know right on live TV shot Lee Harvey Oswald well you know .of me in the lady she had a very close relationship with Libya. I know you guys had plans that were dashed with his death . Talk a little bit about what you have discovered as a related to
First of all we know he didn’t want to do it , they. I was in that my sins of the review , because I know him they were friends only because he was forced to do it .
In the US he hears about Jack Ruby.
Jack Ruby jaggery really was introducing his party Rubenstein basically these mafia NDC time we’re working together to try to kill Castro and he was bringing in money for the project and our case and there was a Newspaper Editor that he wanted to see that move real close minute trip to I doesn’t it. Well , here’s the thing , though : when I describe page 100 8 of my book , really , really well . I wrote that he wasn’t coordination and when I said know really was important enough there . Oh yes a all hope that he will take a Las Vegas . This is where is the proof well out of this file . You know it shows Tropicana motel unlawfully guess which would have run by the mafia and very posh hotel . You see that Jack Rubenstein is he’s come with a vote and their registries Mr. this is woman and it’s risen to file and there is important motel very extensive on whether they do , they’ve given him a Rolls Royce to drive . So there you go , you know I’m just typical this man was a lot more important than people realize . The problem is he knew too much they weren’t needed to get rid of Jack groovy too . He has seen her Arab project Israeli money and 4 from the mafia , he was a Jew so he could never become within need men in circles and happens you know he knew it was going so well they let him walk right in on top of that he actually called we have filed has come in . He called the night before . It was his voice saying is arsenal comes out . He will be shot he contacted the FBI . We had the file the FBI contact in the delegate into , you have to put a lot of protection around the house . What , what do they do . They marched between 2 rows of reporters there 70 policemen there in the basement . Not one of them is near enough to protect are home the people walking of all sides all have guns , drugs and Catherine’s will threaten the front , you can see it on YouTube . He walked quickly away from that . There is nothing to protect me from the front . Jack Ruby David Ferry told me that they said they would cut off every protruding part of his body . If you didn’t do it they would torture his beloved daughter . There they go after his sister . His brothers , so he should have choice how can I be angry at him .
You know it’s phenomenal to Judith the the amount of of deaths that followed from people just it was seemingly random we’ve , we’ve got plane crashes we’ve got hit and run. Yes , we’ve got Cancer suicide unexplained medical seemingly from out of the blue attacking people and suddenly they’re dead . All this is happening between and 5 years following the death of JFK arguably overall yes 170 .
Coroner Sherman she’s murdered murder. I mean , her body there her if she , you know , he said . The voting on fire . Well , and where would we find out it happened on July 21 , 1964 the single the Warren Commission came in the door , was to get testimonies , right . That was earlier that it was going faster in the months before that he was named to his partner who warned a lot it . I mean , when all these people died in New Orleans in people understand you know when he went 4 I had a high I was doing very going in New Orleans and hit Florida Oakland there even we my story and there it was Mrs. Robert Nelson very concerned I join a Mormon Church but you know what I felt very safe there because they don’t even have a clue . Yes , I was only pulses developer I wasn’t call or anything like his sister Baker for almost 18 years . Well , so that’s what I had to do and then after history . If you don’t put out , you know you know well you know story here and it was banned .
It was banned it.
I you know , so I had Europe and I Simpson Dean the jury my life since then I lost my career I lost everything. In fact , all the money that’s from because I do have a salsa security checks and guns every penny every single penny of this most of them clear my reasoning . That’s what it’s about . Everybody gets a vote . Me and leader doing very mafia pilot or a new book called Kennedy . You know , all the big picture . Yes , put everything together from all the resources . So that’s what I’m done . I can’t see my grandchildren I can’t any of their you know I have to give that up because you know we would have done differently .
You have really devoted your life since 1963 to either hiding in traveling in the midst of hiding or as you say , coming out in the late ’90s in going forward , trying to get the word out as it relates to to the relationship of a lot of people that you knew personally as a young Cancer researcher and there are so many players around JFK that it’s it’s it’s really unfathomable you mentioned already.
Time you know we , we didn’t know anything as with turned out to be published.
We get my guess they Judith Mary Baker in a romantic relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald at the time of his passing. I I know that the Oliver Stone .