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This is on point I’m Jane Clayson inferred home Ashford , we’re looking at the latest developments in the Russia investigation. This hour and what the president the people around him did or didn’t do did or didn’t know you can join the conversation . What your prediction will investigations fizzled will they explode . We’re at 423-825-5 that’s 104-2 3 talk . You can also follow us on Twitter and find us on Facebook and on-point radio Jonathan Lander is an investigative reporter for Reuters , you can find a link to his excellent reporting on this on our website on point Radio.org and Max Boot senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations , a conservative but critical and a fan of this president . Yes some sound during his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee last week . Attorney General Jeff Sessions was grilled about inconsistencies in his past statements about contacts with Russians during the presidential campaign here is speaking to the committee .
And all of my testimony. I can only do my best to answer your questions . As I understand them , and to the best of my memory but I will not accept and reject accusations that I am ever lied that is a lie .
And days after that , days after he was grilled Congress and Jeff Sessions opened a speech at the Federalist Society on Friday , making light of this entire controversy.
And then the Kingsley I can for I guess started here.
And on November 11th at a press briefing in Hanoi on his recent trip to Asia president Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump reaffirmed his belief that Russia did not influence the outcome of the US presidential election.
I believe that president Putin really feels and any feel strongly that he did not meddle in our elections.
So Jonathan they had there we hear president Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump talking about Vladimir Putin the we heard sessions before that the Attorney General , what should we know based on your reporting about what the Attorney General didn’t know about all this and how his story may or may have not changed in the course of this.
So it comes down to the fact that Senator of then-Senator Sessions and when he was an adviser to the campaign actually did have 2 meetings with then-Russian ambassador Kissel yet to Celiac here one I believe at the at the GOP convention and one here in Washington. Also he was present at a speech that okay then candidate Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump gave foreign policy speech that was attended by Mr. Kissel Kingsley AK . But then we should go to a photograph that president Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump put on his Instagram account back during the campaign . In March 2000-16 meeting of of Mr. Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump and his foreign policy advisers and they’re in the photograph is a man by the name of George Papadopoulos he pleaded guilty to counts of lying to the FBI about contacts had with Russians or through intermediaries to Russians about arranging a meeting between then-candidate Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin Mr. Papadopoulos told the FBI , according to the statement that was released by Mr. but up mother’s office that he brought up that proposal at that very particular meeting at which Mr. Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump was in the chair as well as then-Senator Sessions . We also know that another campaign adviser Carter page mentioned to the then Senator Sessions that he was going on a trip to Russia that would have been in June . His trip . Where I do we was in June of 2016 he claimed an unrelated trip a trip unrelated to the campaign , and that he mentioned this to then Senator Sessions any dinner here in Washington , DC . Now we’ve had the Attorney General under oath at his confirmation hearing . And then again , I believe in October at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in which he denied knowing about any connections between or any contacts between people with the campaign and Russians . And then last week before the House Judiciary Committee . He said he changed his his both of those statements to say that he had been reminded by news reports that in fact he had chaired this meeting and and but he he said he has he’s he . We had a hazy recollection of that meeting and yet he then clearly told the campaign that he had shut down this proposal by Mr. Popov DARPA , so there is a bit of a contradiction there .
Maxwell jump in here I’m reading The Washington Post one Republican operative in frequent contact with the White House described Robert Mueller. The special counsel’s team as working through the White House staff like Pacman how do you , how you see this and we have the indictment of course of Panera fort , how do you , could you see next if anyone .
Well the widespread speculation is that Mike Flynn , the former national security adviser is going to be the next to either be indicted were couple PDL his son is also very vulnerable. I mean , clearly what Robert Mueller has done here . She has assembled an outstanding team of investigators , the best of the best and they are putting together a textbook investigation as they would have an organized crime family or a complex financial conspiracy they’re working away from the outside in . From the bottom up . There are going after the most of vulnerable people why that they can find including Paul for former campaign enter including George up plus the former foreign policy aide and they’re targeting them hoping to use those cases to go after others went in and build their case and I would say that is that many people around Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump including Sonnen larger customer including son Donald Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump Jr very vulnerable because the bottom line isn’t just to pull back from you know all the details which we need you know it’s it’s proper to focus on the details . We also need to pull back and understand that this point I think there is no doubt in my mind that there was collusion between the Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump campaign and the Russians , the only question now is what did the president know and when did he know it and to what extent is Donald Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump , himself , personally implicated in this collusion . I think you’ll see evidence that he probably what’s quite aware of what was going on , but that’s the case that that Robert Mueller is currently in the process of trying to assemble .
Let’s get mark and here from North Atlanta wonder New York I’m Mike on Mark. Welcome to the program .
Thanks. How do I’m not my opinion and says independence . I think the Russian investigation going on for 10 months now there’s really nothing to it , to me it seems like the Democrats are just cannot handle the loss area anything to go after Trump person”>Trump person”>Trump , but I mean there are things that are out there at the meetings and everything but and the other hand what presidential candidate never had meetings with top all the other countries are I’m sure .