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You know , we have it. So we , we go through their training and their internal time also does additional training for our new volunteers .
We , you have a lot of instances where turtle comes ashore and decides that she doesn’t like that place for her nest. Yes we do really is like what about 50% of the time . I’m just curious , I mean you know what are the odds . A CNN .
Generally , they run , run by 50 answer about 50%.
For example , that’s it , we had 3 and 27 and we had 464 false cross false or a lot. It’s called fast crawl or non-nesting emergence .
Yeah , well you know moms have to be picky.
Where they’re going to do with material any it. It depends on the the depends on you know where there people there at the on and different things you know as well , is there a vegetation or or debris , I mean , it could be a whole lot of different things .
Did you find that there were more false trials this year. I mean could the weather have hadn’t played a part in their decision to not nasty .
Just curious and I I think it’s seem more people on the beach at night you know and I think that’s a very big part of it and the big issue.
You know so Carol for a some , it takes some something like 20 years before a turtle social maturity begins reproducing in for loggerheads is close it up to 30 years. So that’s what we’re seeing down you know Fort Myers and by need and do you feel like this year’s nesting numbers give us kind of a glimpse into the past . As far as current nesting data having something to tell us about how successful sea turtle protection has has been in the last several decades .
Well , I mean this is. Kelly had said also the it is cyclical . So you have to look at it more in the long term , really long-term basis , but were you know looking at our numbers were , we’re kind of getting reassured that hopefully we’re doing something right as far as you know , better protection you know better lighting enforcement , things like that . Major better education to the public and and we’re thinking that we’re hoping with all of those extra efforts that it’s making a difference .
A South so far so Mara , how long have you been involved in in tracking these hurdles 30 years. So you’ve been at this for as many decades as as the study we’re talking about and what have you seen change , I mean we have more people , but we have more efforts to try to help . I mean , have you seen things what kinda differences would you point out .
I I think it , it’s more of a statewide and also you know Countrywide in international assistance to sea turtles and general you know we’ve there a lot of scientific in technical things have changed in the ’80s we put in regulations that Ted regulations total exclude advice on commercial shrimp boats and I think that and changing looks to circle hooks on long lines and I think a lot of changing fishery that methods have also pinch contributed to this.
It seems he’s been a multi-pronged effort is what you’re saying. Oh absolutely right and that education thing , I mean how many people knew what you were up to 30 years ago when you get up at 5 in the morning to walk around . Not many . So then you can , you know it is spread the knowledge with your expertise in than I mean do you remember at the very beginning was just so thrilling to see even more than one or 2 on a walk and now you see so many or has a change that much .
Oh yes , yes it has you know just keeping up with their supplies and things. So it’s , it’s been a pretty amazing since 2012 . You know it was getting really discouraging back in the early 2000s you know one like 400 now since like were that were the turtles you know where they’re going . It was , it was pretty scary , and then you know the past few years like this year county-wide . We had over 1500 so from going to you know 400 in the entire county to 1500 it’s it’s pretty significant . That’s a really big change . Yes .
That’s a lot. So that has to make it feel better to go out there and was it hard for volunteers to see things when it was getting bad but now do they feel a lot better now , but it’s the numbers are . Oh , I sure hope so , is it hard to resist the urge to protect these guys you know you see this illness and vulnerable for example evacuating like you mentioned with the predation you just wanna go up and put like it a barrier around them to save them .
You do , but you know we were under strict strict stick scapegoats excuse me strict state guidelines. You know what we can do and what we can’t do and you know we have to leave a nest in place and , you know , even with the weather coming up , that’s I think what made at the hardest for us is watching the Nats wash away and there was nothing we could do about it .
Did we see a lot nest get washed away by Hurricane armor.
We did in Collier County on the mainland beaches. We had 238 out of our 927 washed away but the nest Kim season and we did have a little bit of problems with Tropical Storm Emily back in , in the beginning a season , but nothing like 2012 with hurricane or tropical storm Debby and Isaac that came in . Earlier , so we had more nuts on the beach . We hadn’t started happening when Tropical Storm Debby came so we saw a lot more impacts in 2012 than we did this year .
And there’s another really , you can’t , you can’t. And I’m wondering if we have hurricanes obviously which are devastating everybody but when we have those horrible raise remember a couple weeks before hurricane or not does that kind of mainland rain does that have an impact on the beach , too .
It’s very well , very well could it depends you know it depends on the topography of the B.
Yeah and the placement. You know if you right there on one of those were all the water kinda comes off the houses are through the from the streets or something like that .
Yeah exactly enough any , there’s any storm water runoff and you know , coming from a a sea wall or something like that. So now there’s a lot of factors .
Okay so biologist Kelly. The news about more . This is great , but does that tell us anything about how many of the young actually make it out to sea , is there , I think continuing to track it all the way through .
Well the generally accepted number , is that about 1 and 1,000 makes it to adulthood and I think that they started this fantasy project this year in the state of Florida to try and determine how many of the hatchlings that emerge from the answer actually making it to the water so will analyze that way too.
So what kind of studies do they have. I mean the you it was it anecdotal . The 1 and 1,000 making it to adulthood or they studied that .
I think it’s based a lot on modeling but I think there’s been some studies as well.
All right. So , quite honestly protection program I wanted to ask you , I think it’s interesting that the county actually has a sea turtle protection program what what made them want to get involved in looking after sea turtles , I mean what exactly does that program do .
The Kelly started taking care of their sea turtles back in the late 1980s when we started doing nourishment. So the whole program is tied to pretty much Petri nourishment we compare the natural beaches with the beaches that have been re-nourished also we wake the beaches and Collier County . If you make a beach . You know you could wipe away the tracks so the BJP’s have to wait for us to monitor the beach before they can get out there , so it has a lot to do with our permit conditions for a beautiful nourishment and also be trading and other activities , construction activities that can be done during sea turtle season because we are out there , you know , building a boardwalk or things like that .
You know , it’s good to have people on the ground. So where are we , right now in the season is everybody hatched where do we still have a couple of late-blooming mess a .
Took everything away from Carter County. We didn’t have anything left after Hurricane armor .
It was happening in and for Myers anybody still being monitored there.
You know it was debate bit season is basically over but we did have some mess that we’re actually high enough that they did survive armor and we had hatching after the storm , believe it or not.
Oh , not going anywhere. If you we can a mall Burma when England every one of those , those and then Kelly was gonna ask on Sanibel captive , do you have any nurse still out there .
You know we don’t we inventory last nest in November.
In November , so your chances of seeing nest hatched this year is has now passed.
That’s right , yeah.
So in the , can you give me some tips for people that are interested in learning more about monitoring sea turtles , what kind of things. Do people need to do if they want to try to help that might be a nice cushion for care if they well what do people need to do if they want to do something to add to the success rate of sutras in area .
Well , all of this , a lot of things they can do that and they can be a volunteer with us or any of the organizations up and down the coast. There is such things as making sure your lights are in compliance , that’s a , that’s a big , big factor on that now walking around with a key a flashlight or your cell phone flashlight on the beach , removing furniture and other beach equipment , things like that that that turtles can get hung up in even trash and debris on the beach is important . They can pick that up to turtles don’t get hung up in it .
There’s been a big movement lately to to avoid plastic straws. Have you seen any issues with plastic plastic straws on beaches and turtles turtles getting involved in them .
We haven’t directly. I know for my speech did did that ban but there is the eye , it’s been out on the Internet . The total that was down in Central America , South America , that they found that had it had somehow ingested it and it was stuck in its nose and owns digital it out , but the , on the internet .
One video like that can spark an entire beach getting rid of plastics rose and then. Meanwhile , there’s a whole lake of plastic somewhere out there in the ocean that we’re keeping an eye on too .
Right. This plastic bags fishing line anything like that . His .