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That’s for sure. It’s very candid and very raw , and you know a lot of it is about you know I had actually when I started the religion website at the post . 11 years ago called I’m saying I was an atheist and I started studying religion and I I started it , because I thought that we weren’t covering religion and that it was such an important topic both not and an American politics but also foreign policy and and so when I started either website . It was really for journalistic reasons but then I started studying religion reading a lot traveled around the world to study the great faith and I got completely consumed by the idea of religion and faith and completely caught up in it and fascinated by it and the idea that 95% of the people in this world are informed and some way you know fired by their face and and so I have I started rethinking and it was just a fascinating . I’m in my life and you know someone reminded me my husband Ben Bradlee , who was the most sort of energetic charismatic dazzling chivalrous 5th swashbuckling sexy guy you’ve ever of that and then got dementia 8 years before he died , which will be 3 years on Saturday and Spanish that he got dementia and and the last 2 years of his life . I took care of him and and it was you know it was a real eye opener for me because I I have in fact been asked to do a memoir about or take a book about how and how an atheist ever started a religion website . And then , then started its decline , and I just couldn’t ride . I didn’t do anything and then after he died . About 3 weeks later . I thought I really got to write this book . And so I started writing about his to mention his decline and his staff . And then I started thinking , you know , this is really what I want to write about , and not necessarily about the website , which I didn’t have that much to , you know , I mean it was okay I do write about in the book but it became more of my spiritual experience throughout my life and and that this sort of road , I took from childhood with the story after story after story of things that happened to me and my life that were moments of transcendence or a Tiffany’s or moments of illumination or spiritual moments or moments of magic . I mean I call my book finding magic because it was clear . When I finally worked my way up to up to where I had the website that all my life . I had not really been an atheist at all . I had believed in spirituality or Magic or whatever . Some people might want to call it . God , I think everybody has a different word for God and I mean certainly there . Thousands of people I’ve interviewed about religion , I always ask them what God is to them and everyone has a different view .
No. When you say you believe in magic . Sally what , what does that mean .
Well , what that means is that I believe you know a lot of people have given up organized religion these days and and they’re going to , they’re , what they call nuns and ones , which means if you ask someone what their religion is they say none , but they will always say their spiritual only about one percent of people who are actual atheist then I call them MSP and our spiritual but not religious , and and so people , I think particularly now when the world is in such chaos are looking for spirituality. They’re looking for meaning , and they’re looking for some . Why are we here . What is this all about , and they’re not getting what they need from the organized religions and so they’re going elsewhere for and so when I so you know people will pray for you . Some people pray to God and some people and prayers out to the universe or whatever they want to do , but what I’m when I talk about magic it’s what some people might want to call God or I’ll or zoos or whatever you might want to call it , but it is something that gives you a sense of transcendence and a sense of being in touch with the divine and a sense of taking that that there is something bigger than we are , and something that fits mysterious that we just can’t know I mean some sense of enchantment . And our lives . And so for me it was always about , as I look back on my life when I was writing the book I saw that there were these moments all the way through my life that I had recognized for being what they were . I just saw them as you know moments and it was only after I started writing the book and wrote about then staff and then went back and started looking at my life and I realized that I had not been an atheist that I had been a very spiritual person all my life and certainly the last 2 years . Life when I took care of him where the most spiritual moments the most spiritual time of my life and and hardware the happiest time of our marriage because we grew closer and I was so lucky that bin me up until the very end . And so we were . He had his personality , you know he was confused , he couldn’t you know he couldn’t take a shower by himself . I had the show a precious you ahead to get dressed , and undressed and and he would have these blackouts in these psychotic episodes but you know who I was and even loses personality was confused and he had trouble with conversation and so we still have this wonderful relationship and we were still , I mean we were together 43 years I was madly in love with them the whole time .
Well , there we will get it for the globe and I would.
More in love with him , the day he died than I had ever been before.
When you met there was some some magic there and now the course a legendary story. How did you meet .
Well , we actually had an editor who had hired me at the post. Brought in to meet and who was the editor of The Post at that time and I was just completely dazzled . I was just stunned and you know I just . But he was 20 years older and he was whether the paper and I was in my ’20s and and then I didn’t , that the job didn’t work out . I never worked at the person then about 2 years later . I have been the for the Algerian Ambassador and so have been NUMMI and and he was looking at just started style the style the revolutionary style section and so he called and asked me if I wanted to be a reporter party reporter and so I went in for an interview and it was you know I just was again electrified dazzled by this incredible man but still he was the godlike creature you know Mr. Bradley but we had this sort of very interesting . There was a lot of electricity in the room and a lot of sparring back and forth and a lot of you know , we were obviously attracted to each other but nothing ever happened until 4 years later when we were on the plane going down to Miami cover the the convention and we were seated next to each other by accident and we learn admitted to each other , that we had . I fell in love with him on that flight had to wear a flight to Miami , and he had later admitted he had fallen in love with me , but .
But that was right in the middle of Watergate. And it was just too dangerous for anything to happen I was writing in these little anonymous notes some kind of little love notes after we’ve had some encounter in the newsroom and he never figured out who was sending .
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Could be so stupid sometimes but I realized that I couldn’t , I couldn’t approach and one of my friends that you can’t do this because if he takes you up on this , you will. You know you could bring down the newspaper you could , you know , he added . It would it would end the Watergate investigation and then was being followed as phones were tapped and all of that and he said he you know you you know to put your country first and being an Army brat , you know , do or duty Honor Country . That was the one thing he could have said that kept me away from . And so I in order to get away from them , accepted a job at CBS News to be the first network anchorwoman and moved to New York and was miserable and by that time and I had gotten together I told him I had after I quit I I had lunch with him and farewell lunch and I told him I was in love with him and he said : I can’t believe you’re saying this because I’ve been in love with you for the last year and so we ended up being together and and we were together for the rest of .
43 years what we 3 years you it’s it’s a great book and certainly an unconventional and in its own way , inspiring memoir from Sally Quinn , who is the subject of 6 portraits by Andrew Andy Warhol so you have. Okay . A full life but finding magic is the book and we certainly appreciate the time spent with us this morning . Thank you , Sam .
Thank you very much.
Take care. See .
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