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Well , I think , I think , I mean , I think there’s a lot of , I think there’s a lot to be said. You know there there’s there’s good things , and bad things to all of this , you know there’s so much content , it’s hard to say . It’s hard to decipher . What’s the best and and how even break through the din of all the stuff that’s being made and in on a secondary note you know it is great that that you have . Netflix and you have Amazon and you have put big companies that are making a lot of content , but then you kind of wonder , are we going back to a studio system in a way where you just have these big places and they not only do they control the content , but they control what content they make so that it becomes harder for independent artists in Leicester signing up with some peace like a Netflix and Amazon took to make the kind of work they wanna make , I mean you know and not to disparage on it and Netflix I’d I would love to work there , but Netflix doesn’t have a show with a gay lead moving anywhere .
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It’s an ensemble. But certainly not a game . Well , no . And if you look at , if you look at content even besides transparent nothing . There’s not really any other , there is no transfer stories , there is no case stories you know .
So let’s be hoping tell and now you know that you like there’s massive river of content. Britain will include scuse me recovering .
So yes , yeah I a while well wins over covers and for folks who are tuning in right now who don’t know you. Yet Mr. a travesty at this I don’t know most we both know what you I do . We are talking with our guest hopes host and guide for the future . I’m I’m just sort of impose this on your already battering Rondo Barack no pressure just Elizabeth’s Sarah and Justin Elizabeth’s air is the hosting , creator of the award winning the meeting of the international order of Sodom mites in New York City , which occasionally came out to LA to give us a little bit of your love the year you were a comic playwright TV comedy writer activist young adult fiction author now nonfiction our hard , you’ve got the wonderful sparkle and circulate podcast and singer because I heard you sing in the room . Oh yeah I think so , I mean absolutely in the old style . Yeah . So all of those things and you’re still doing all those things . Who are the stuff we’re talking about how is all this change in what’s happening right now affecting her changing your voice or the way that you are doing your work well .
You know I I think , a prior to this election , I was where I was my I was a little more political in the work that I was making , and for some reason. And just to be honest , I think I pulled back a little bit only because I none of it seemed funny to me . Well , none of it , it all seemed so dire and unfunny to me that I just didn’t know how to respond to it because I I couldn’t . I think like a lot of people I was in the dark tunnel of oh my God , what what job yet happened for probably the first 6 months of the presidency just sitting there going Iike I can’t believe this is true .
Yeah , I can’t believe this is happening. Still , yeah , you know , still nothing .
Everything about you know I can’t find the funny. It’s like what while we can’t find it funny me Randy Rimbaud has basically he’s been around for a while . I didn’t realize but this made him . Oh , absolutely . That will be , I mean , some people were right on the .
Oh sure I you anything that yeah , no , absolutely and I and Randy I know from New York and he’s great , and I think the stuff that he’s making is great. I just I couldn’t move . I really couldn’t . I saw it is also dire and my response to that was okay , I’m going to just make funny things that people can kind of get away from that and to be in a little bit of an escape best in a way and talk about other things and still offer a sense of community with the roommate you’re making you know like okay , we’re all in this together . But as the year when my work started to change because I thought in a way , everything becomes when you’re in these kind of dire circumstances , everything becomes political so in a way . While I’m not mentioning him and I try not to even say the name to be honest , I feel like when I talk about the importance of community or talk about how he you know even even I think leaving right now and being a very Al gay person is a statement about where your political alliances lie . I think that that we have to kind of dig into those things more than we have , you know , because I think there was a certain complacency that came over a lot of gay people . Yeah . During the Obama years that it was like , okay . Everything’s fine .
Where are the men just have a few things you have to work out but were good. Yeah .
And now that bubble is really births first ripped open and and in subtle ways that that we’re not , we’re not even hardness and I’ve yet Ike Trump recently firing a the whole AIDS team without any.
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Coming off a voice that people like the people who are involved in act up fought for that is coming off a legacy of political activism that gay people have fought for , for a long time and while it is not just a gay issue it is it is an issue that has Fisk merely a and that gay people fought for so to see us another one of our avenues into a presidency dismissed in that way is the way that we have to reignite our base and say okay now we have to get back in those door.
Well , one of the first things that team did was erased the LGBT Cupid from the White House Web so sure. And I mean they depart website and the Department of Labor website .
And we’re away. So in a sense this year . So I mean , or only 2020 . Yeah , yeah , I mean it is , it is important to you , it is important again to be out there and to be present and to be part of this . What I’m encouraged by is this continual in this intersection hourly among issues that you see a lot of gay people coming forward and talking about me 2 issues when you see gay people coming forward and talking about health care issues about the deficit about environmental problems . I think though .
That’s done really did come home I noticed right after the election. We talked a good game . Yeah , but I felt like we started feeling it absolutely because it’s .
The enormity of how quickly we went from this happy progressive place where we thought , okay , we can handle it and also being led by someone who was so kind of brilliantly Carmen. You know , like , say what you want about Obama he was united , he was certainly somebody who you felt like , oh , we’re in good hands . Yeah , he’s a reasonable .
The whole system is not going to be this man.
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I mean she’s she’s actually making light of effect , we all make Reza resolutions for New Year’s and Abbey actually made the resolution to do and so for this show on a somewhat regular basis and here it is the first year of the year , and she has done so you wanna give us some will synopsis of what we’re going to leap into a show we just we’ve business. Oh I don’t know , I guess that’s just leap intellect like all right . Take a low .
Goal. I’ve been looking for upside .
To 20-17 that will give me some hope for 20-18 the few silver linings I’ve been able to tease out just mock me like wow in 2017 we finally learned that when they come from one of us. They come for all of us or woo donations are going up up up at the Committee to Protect Journalists . Or maybe my doctor finally authorized Automatic Xanax refills . You know it’s been tough . I know I’m preaching to the choir like you probably there is no amount of therapy that will make 2017 makes sense to me . But if things always made some sense . Before then , I guess I’m actually lucky . So as I say goodbye to 20-17 . Let me also say goodbye to an old outdated fantasy . The idea that we are always moving forward that progress is inevitable . Here’s what I mean . Prior to 20-17 many of us who make a monthly donation to some good cars sign petitions spend Saturday mornings marching in a hat or hosting a socially conscious radio show . Well , we felt like we were part of a gentle steady climb upward punctuated by a few setbacks . But thankfully , always more victories in the end sooner or later fairness will always prevail . It just takes time .