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Hornish and Shapiro president Trump has ordered the immediate declassification of secret documents in the Russia probe. He explained his thinking in the Oval Office today what I want is I want total transparency . This is a witch hunt . Former national security officials are warning that the release could have risky consequences that go far beyond the investigation into the president‘s campaign NPR National Justice Correspondent Carrie Johnson is here to talk more about the issue carry hiring , what exactly did the president ordered to be released .
Well first president round once released , part of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance application and Carter page remember Carter paid was a tramp campaign adviser with ties to Russia. In all there were 4 so-called Pfizer applications on paid each was approved by a team of Justice Department officials and approved by judges president Trump also ordered the release of text messages about the Russian investigation and those tax were written by some familiar names , former FBI director Jim Comey former deputy , FBI director Andy Mackay , former FBI agent Peter struck former FBI lawyer Lisa Page now president Trump‘s allies in Congress say the released of those text messages will help underscore what they perceive as biased by the investigators . Finally , the president wants to make public some interviews with another Justice Department lawyer Bruce or who has been on his enemies list .
How unusual is it for these kinds of materials to be declassified in full by a president like this.
It is very unusual. Some people say unprecedented former Justice Department national security chief David Kris tweeted yesterday it was off the charts . David Kris literally wrote the book about national security . You’d think he’d seen it all until now . I also reached out today to David he’s in private law practice but he used to run the Justice Department’s counter-intelligence unit . Here’s his reaction of the presidential order .
For decades , the Justice Department has litigated aggressively and successfully in national security cases to prevent the disclosure of Pfizer applications this happens routinely in prosecutions of terrorism espionage and a host of other national security-related cases.
Now David laughing says the president‘s directive could put that winning record in jeopardy if a judge decides he or she doesn’t buy the government’s need for secrecy in a bunch of important national security , terrorism and spy case.
So if the Justice Department has to say we never released these kinds of documents someone can turn around and say , but president Trump just did. This is all about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and an investigation is still going on . So what is the implication there .
Donald Trump ordered these documents released on Monday night. Only 3 days after his former campaign chairman Paul afford pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the special counsel . It’s not clear what metaphor has that could incriminate the president if anything but investigators have been really interested , not just in trumped by his son Donald Jr his son in law Jared Kushner other people affiliated with the campaign . Democrats in Congress say this move to declassify documents represents an abuse of power . Another instance of president Trump interfering in this investigation . Now the president does have the power to declassify these materials . The question is whether he may pay a political price for doing just that .
So as you said he gave the order last night , we haven’t seen the documents. Yet , when do you expect they’ll be out .
Hard to say. A spokeswoman for the director of national intelligence , says they’re working expeditiously with Justice and the FBI to move through this process , the Justice Department has no public timeline for the release , and it’s possible , there’s actually a tug of war , behind the scenes , about how much of this material actually sees the light of day . Congressman Adam Schiff , a Democrat from California says the deputy attorney general and the FBI director had previously told him some of this information , releasing it would be a red line for them . If that’s the case . It’s hard to predict when we might see this material if ever .
It’s NPR National Justice Correspondent Carrie Johnson thanks Carrie. My pleasure .
How can the US be sure the money it spends on foreign aid is actually making a difference one foreign aid officer propose this test any government program should at the very least , make people better off than just giving them cash in the first results of this experiment are now in and they’re proving awkward NPR’s Anne Reid Eisman explains.
Daniel handle as an economist who works for US aid. The government’s main agency for delivering foreign assistance .
Yes , the hero of this story is Daniel and.
That’s why Keane carbon now a former USAID colleague of handle who’s now a fellow at Harvard University , USAID would not authorize handle or any other current official to talk to NPR. But Intel’s efforts have been described NPR by multiple sources who worked closely with him , they say , Kendall was concerned by what he saw as an agency habit of spending enormous sums on programs that only boosted people’s incomes marginally programs that give people food or livestock or job training .
He was just like wow. Those numbers don’t look good .
Then handle heard about a charity that was testing a bold alternative just give people the aid directly in cash. In fact , the charity is called give directly . Their argument is that in a lot of cases , poor people know what they need , they just don’t have the money to get it studies we’re finding people weren’t wasting the cash rate on tobacco or alcohol . They often invested it in ways that improve their standard of living .
And that’s kind of when it clicked and Daniel said.
Cash aid could offer a way to test the effectiveness of USA its traditional programs he thought we should make sure any given traditional program is producing more benefits for people than simply handing them the cost of the program in cash.
Can our programs do better for the poor than the poor can do for themselves as Daniel likes to say.
So until went his bosses USAID and proposed a series of experiments and Healy is with the nonprofit evidence action. She was a former USAID official who helped oversee handles efforts . She says there was a lot of pushback in the agency people said this is risky . If we find that cash it out performs our traditional aid programs .
That would open USA to criticism from Congress from the American public.
That could undermine the case for traditional aid and giving cash directly is a hard sell politically still USAID agreed to test handles idea on some programs including a major effort to reduce child malnutrition in Rwanda this program , teachers , parents , things like how to plant more diverse foods how to wash hands to prevent diarrhea and this strategy isn’t just limited to Rwanda Craig Mackintosh is an economist at University of California , San Diego , who was commissioned to study the program.
It is fairly standard in terms of the way that they try to combat child nutrition across sub-Saharan Africa.
USAID compared this traditional setup to another group of parents who were given a cash grant equivalent to the per person. Cost of the program , a $140 a family after a year McIntosh and his collaborators checked on the kids and here’s where things get awkward .
Bottom line , there were no improvements in any of the child health indicators.
The kids didn’t weigh more , they weren’t any taller their arms were just thin both in the traditional aid group and the cash grant group Macintosh says as disappointing as these results may seem , it’s not hopeless. This is what Daniel handle set out to do . Find out if US AIDS programs are effective and if they’re not , it’s not that you just sort of turn out the lights and go home . You figure out how to make them work , and there was a 3rd group in Rwanda the got a larger cash grant . About $500 per family . Those kids did show some improvement . So that tells Macintosh maybe you need to spend more , but it’s unclear what USAID will do with these results , the agency would only provide NPR with a statement saying that the Rwanda experiment was commissioned under the Obama administration and describing it as , quote very limited . The statement further added that testing traditional programs against cash aid is quote not relevant to most of US AIDS programs . Yzerman , NPR News .
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